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It's my own fault. M. is off adventuring in the frozen tundra (actually, it's summer in the midwest so he's mostly sweltering in the melted tundra) but I've got the house to myself, and cannot leave the DVR alone. I'm actively LOOKING for things to record. It's addictive. Why didn't y'all tell me? Oh,wait, you did.

I'm reading Sharyn McCrumb's follow-up to Bimbos of the Death Sun, which is called Zombies of the Gene Pool, and like the other, the relevance of these books (which I enjoyed regardless) was lost on me the first time because I hadn't become part of fandom. And dude, these books just nail it, mercilessly and in some places warmly - Gene Pool more than Death Sun. I think McCrumb's worked out more of her issues with the fannish community in the sequel. But it is truly, truly odd to see something so close to you (and something that feels so oddly personal) laid out so thoroughly on the page, to see how little things have changed despite the internet. These books are funny and scathing and if you're a fan with perspective, I'd highly recommend them, both for the dude, that's so me and the mild sense of outrage. They're both worthy reactions.

And of course, on to the fannish news. I wish I were more surprised by Sci-Fi's decision to cancel SG-1. On a business level it undoubtedly makes sense. Hell, on a business level, cancelling Farscape probably made sense, but I'm never going to have perspective on that, so we'll leave it out of the discussion. Two years ago, I wouldn't have cared. The show isn't really MY show (although the new incarnation was heading therre), but it's a lot of other people's show and I'd have felt truly devastated on their behalf and moved on. But now, dammit, they revamped it, and brought in two of my favorite actors, and it was getting a new life. It was finding it's feet and doing new things and had this sort of joyous exuberance that had been lacking in the last few years, and dammit. I liked it. I liked the new characters (oh hell, I loved the new characters), but I've grown terribly attached to the original characters as well. And what pisses me off (aside from the err grr no I don't actually know these people, but Skiffy, how can you cancel yet another show right from under Browder and Black? That's just cruel, man. And your timing, as always, is sucktastic. And I feel bad for them more than anyone because they signed up for this show, to bring something new and exciting to it, a show that looked like it couldn't die and wham. I want these two to have glorious fullfilling careers. That doesn't seem like too much to ask, right?)

SG-1 became my Rolling Stones show, my love the one you're with show, and somehow around the Inviso-ep last season, it became a show I was looking forward to. One I wanted to sit next to, and maybe give the occasional hickey to, and let it take me out for chichi Chinese and a martini every once in awhile. It wasn't my drunken run off to Vegas and fuck for a month and have babies with show, and really, I don't think I'll ever have another one of those, but it was a show developing new and intriguing momentum and mostly it just sucks that the momentum won't have anywhere to go now. It seems such a typical business decision to pull the plug before really seeing what the investment can do. Which, way of the world or not, that just makes me angry. It's, again, the choice of business over story and no matter the justification, that's just never going to be okay with me. And yeah, the show's had a good run, and I hope that people do let those involved know how much it meant to them. These people worked their asses off for 10 years (and two years respectively) and they deserve to know that they will be missed.

Date: 2006-08-22 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raithen.livejournal.com
It wasn't my drunken run off to Vegas and fuck for a month and have babies with show,

really, you need a *snort your coffee* warning before this, darlin....

and seriously? I am kinda glad I don't get Skiffy cuz I think there might be all kinds of headsplodey-ness....

Date: 2006-08-22 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Skiffy has the most abysmal timing ever, that's for damn sure.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raithen.livejournal.com
I really wonder what kind of crack their marketing dept is on. I mean, come ON. 200th ep! Yay! Major Buzz creation WHOO! Viewers! Expensive ads! YAYYY!!!

then: oh, btw, show cancelled.

BUZZKILL.

*eyeroll*

Date: 2006-08-22 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scapersuse.livejournal.com
Seriously. Skiffy has the worst timing EVER.

Date: 2006-08-22 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elliejane.livejournal.com
:: your 3rd and 4th paragraphs::

All of that. Except I didn't expect it (because I never do).

And, oh yes, just so unfair that BB and CB are getting into the swing of some lovely fun stuff, and then it gets kicked into touch. Both of them are so incredibly talented they should have those glorious fulfilling careers (and act together whenever possible just to please us who KNOW about the chemistry already)....

I was just getting serious about this show! And not JUST because of BB and CB - I am rather attached to the whole team. I have been buying seasons worths of dvd, fer cryin' out loud!! ::pouting::

Date: 2006-08-22 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scout27.livejournal.com
I want these two to have glorious fullfilling careers. That doesn't seem like too much to ask, right?

You and me both girl. Your feelings mirror mine to the T. I am SO disappointed, but most of that is on behalf of them. I so much want to see them in something that is insanely successful, not only because I love them both. Mostly because I think they deserve it so very much.

I'm very distraught.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Sigh. Exactly.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haphazardmethod.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear about SG-1, largely because I like Browder and Black.

McCrumb's books are fun. I loved the movie Galaxy Quest for much the same reason -- it was a warm, funny take on fandom and its foibles.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to hear about SG-1, largely because I like Browder and Black. Exactly. If it weren't for them, I'd probably being saying, "Man, the timing sucks, but y'all had a great run."

And yeah, the books do that same sort of tongue and cheek thing that Galaxy Quest does, a tribute with a wicked bite.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rydra_wong
*sighs* Yeah. What you said.

It's not My Show (and nothing will be My Show after Farscape).

But I'm sad for BB and CB, because it was nice to see them gainfully employed and it looked like they were having fun, and they so deserve that. And I will miss Teal'c. And I'm sad for the many smart wonderful SG-1 fic writers for whom it is Their Show, and I'm sad because it finally got me into fic writing, dammit.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
It's not My Show (and nothing will be My Show after Farscape Sigh. Yup.

And yes to all of that. I'm sad for the people for whom this was their show, and I'm terribly sad for the actors because they were so much fun and I adore them irrationally for people I don't actually know:)

(And mmmm, Teal'c. And yeah for you writing. That's a trend with much possibility of continuation though:)

Date: 2006-08-22 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] life-on-queen.livejournal.com
I'm TV-ually promiscuous. I seem to go throughy phases of shows that I want to run off and fuck for a month and have babies with, although, in terms of longevity, so far only Farscape has held up to a long-term relationship. It's a show I can see myself growing old with - maybe not hot-whip cream-sex every day but that kind of married-to-it slip DMD into the DVD player and feel the heat way. I do have high hopes for Veronica Mars, which comes very close to pushing all my buttons.

As for poor SG-1, I think the sad thing is Skiffy fucked it to death by breaking up the Scifi Block. I think the bookends of SG1 and BSG made for a strong night but SG1 alone, being a thing of perpetual reruns, is something people DVR or tape rather than sit down for the hour on a Friday. Atlantis just makes me sad and not in a good way.

Still, SG1 fen seemed some of the more... placid I've observed.

Date: 2006-08-22 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
I have high hopes for VM for you as well:) It's always nice to see a second marriage working out well for your friends:)

And yeah, Skiffy had a good thing going with the Friday night block. Of course they had to break it up. Rolls eyes thoroughly.

I think most of the SG fen are sad but resigned and pleased that it had the run that it did.

Date: 2006-08-22 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] life-on-queen.livejournal.com
It's always nice to see a second marriage working out well for your friends:)

*snigger*

Date: 2006-08-22 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pellucid.livejournal.com
Ditto to much of what you've said about SG-1, particularly in regard to Black and Browder.

The cancellation has brought out all sorts of weird loyalty issues on my part, because SG-1 used to be My Show. And it was only after seeing the beginning of SG-1 season 9 and being impressed with CB and BB that I moved Farscape to the top of the "to watch" list--and promptly fell so madly in love with FS that my SG-1 enthusiasm paled considerably in comparison.

So this season, I feel like I have been watching largely for CB and BB, and of course getting extra fun out of the fact that these great new characters, played by these actors I adore, are hanging out with the characters I've loved for years. And now that it's cancelled, I feel like I've got disappointment operating on at least two different levels: the old-school SG-1 fan, as well as the newbie FS fan who wants her weekly dose of Claudia Black. But I guess that's why god made DVDs. *sighs*

Date: 2006-08-22 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Exactly. Thank god for DVDs! I'm going to miss the actors, together, more than the show itself I think, but still...

Date: 2006-08-22 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denyeverything1.livejournal.com
They cancelled SG-1? Wow, way to celebrate 200 episodes, SciFi people. Phbpt.

Poor BB and CB. That sucks, not like the first time, but probably just as bad, in its way.

*sigh* I will miss watching Mitchell getting his feet under him and I will miss watching Vala, period.

And I just started watching SG-1 from S1, episode 1 on DVD becausr the other characters were growing on me, too. Poo.

ION,

These books are funny and scathing and if you're a fan with perspective, I'd highly recommend them, both for the dude, that's so me and the mild sense of outrage. They're both worthy reactions.

Oh, good to hear. I've had these on my "to get" list since they were recommended to me by another Phile years ago, but haven't followed through on getting them because the descriptions on Amazon make them sound disturbingly patronizing. And who needs that -- after all, we get enough of it *within* fandom. :P

But from your description, I think I'll have to check them out...

Date: 2006-08-22 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
They're scathing, and accurate and very funny (and not condescending). (And the second has a ... milder tone that I appreciate it. But oh, she just nails some of the fannish things in a way that is not... cringeworthy so much as astonishing because it's not parody!! But she's also merciless to some of the professional writers which also cracks me up. Their behavior doesn't look any better).

Date: 2006-08-22 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denyeverything1.livejournal.com
But she's also merciless to some of the professional writers which also cracks me up.

Oh, that would be nice to read at this point. I'm still blistered by some of the stuff I saw on John Scalzi's recent post about the HP shenanigans. (We, started with the HP shenanigans, then moved on to indict fic and fandom in general.)

Date: 2006-08-22 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
I think you'll enjoy these:)

Date: 2006-08-22 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scapersuse.livejournal.com
My main thought last night was "poor Ben and Claud - here we go again with the cancellation." But then I thought, pretty much every actor who does tv has to go through cancellation at some point or other, and at least they're getting some warning this time. But still - Ben and Claud! They had another show, they were doing so well! Sigh.

I haven't seen most of Season 9 or any of Season 10 so maybe that's why I seem so apathetic, but I really do feel bad for Browder and Black. :(

Date: 2006-08-22 08:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kazbaby
You pretty much summed it up for me.

Date: 2006-08-22 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenlev.livejournal.com
ah, i still have no perspective about farscape being cancelled. still bitter about that. i wasn't surprised that sg1 was cancelled, i'll miss new episodes. but we've had a good run.

as for scifi channel...gah, their corporate dysfunction is awful.

{{{hugs}}}

Date: 2006-08-22 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] midnightsjane.livejournal.com
I don't watch SG-1, but I was tempted to start because of my love for BB and CB on Farscape.
Also, it's shot here in Vancouver, so I'm always hopeful for sightings...
The producer did say that he is shopping it out to other networks, and looking for ways to keep it going. Fingers crossed for that!

Date: 2006-08-23 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pdxscaper.livejournal.com
I want these two to have glorious fullfilling careers. That doesn't seem like too much to ask, right?
Yes, exactly!

That bummed me out the most. Both Ben and Claudia seemed to be having such fun with it and enjoying it immensely.

And, although I began watching SG-1 solely because of BB, I had actually begun to start caring about the other characters--even fast talking Daniel Jackson with the funny round glasses.

Skiffy rains on another parade. Why is that not surprising? **Sigh**

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