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The main drawback of being both busy and productive is that it leaves little time for writing, which I yearn for, running scenarios over and over in my head, while they roll up next to the ones in progress and purr, taunting.

Like, how do you make sex go wrong, sort of bad, disconcerting wrong, because if you both finish, how bad, really can it be. And in order to slot it in to canon, at least one party has to be getting something out of it, right? Party X, I'm guessing, because Party Y was too cranky in the next ep to have thoroughly gotten his socks rocked, but not cranky enough to be unwilling to try for round two. I think I've nailed the beginning, no pun intended, but it's where things go terribly wrong that's flummoxing me a bit.

It's part of my goal, translating this whole sex as language thing into practice as well as theory, proving that I'm not just talking a good game and defending my porn, but also willing to make it collapse, be sloppy and absurd and misguided and misunderstood.

And speaking of porn, fellow [livejournal.com profile] the_sporkys members who are participating in choosing fic to go forward, we definitely need a sound guidance system. I think we're 90% there, but let's make it official, shall we?

Also, I love this idea, and will work on my end of the bargain this week. Stolen from [livejournal.com profile] sabine101:

Step One

- Make a post (public, friendslocked, filtered...whatever you're comfortable with) to your LJ. The post should contain your list of 10 holiday wishes. The wishes can be anything at all, from simple and fandom-related ("I'd love a Snape/Hermione icon that's just for me") to medium ("I wish for _____ on DVD") to really big ("All I want for Christmas is a new car/computer/house/TV.") The important thing is, make sure these wishes are things you really, truly want.

- If you wish for real life things (not fics or icons), make sure you include some sort of contact info in your post, whether it's your address or just your email address where Santa (or one of his elves) could get in touch with you.

- Also, make sure you post some version of these guidelines in your LJ, or link to this post (it'll be public) so that the holiday joy will spread.

Step Two

- Surf around your friendslist (or friendsfriends, or just random journals) to see who has posted their list. And now here's the important part:

- If you see a wish you can grant, and it's in your heart to do so, make someone's wish come true. Sometimes someone's trash is another's treasure, and if you have a leather jacket you don't want or a gift certificate you won't use--or even know where you could get someone's dream purebred Basset Hound for free--do it.

You needn't spend money on these wishes unless you want to. The point isn't to put people out, it's to provide everyone a chance to be someone else's holiday elf--to spread the joy. Gifts can be made anonymously or not--it's your call.

There are no rules with this project, no guarantees, and no strings attached. Just...wish, and it might come true. Give, and you might receive. And you'll have the joy of knowing you made someone's holiday special.

1. For my ficathoners to finish their ficathon stories, hopefully without tears or my name taken in vain.

2. More Winona Forever t-shirts, modeled so fabulously by Sab on Sunday night.

3. To not have to take the goddamned fucking Coumadin anymore. Sorry, that's not a grantable wish, but it's a true one.

4. Time!! Time to finish all of the things I want to finish, time to write and breathe and take a bath.

5. More bath bombs from Lush.

6. Icons, sweetie! These are legion.

7. Sorry, Kath, but I'm trying to take the pressure off:) LGM 1 porn.

8. The Bender/Rygel fic wherein they take over the world.

9. A snazzy, sparkly scarf that would wind around my neck more than once.

10. Cold weather, and good whisky, and health and happiness for those around me.

Since I can never play truly by the rules, I'll do the easy ones tomorrow.

Date: 2004-12-01 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] troyswann.livejournal.com
It's part of my goal, translating this whole sex as language thing into practice as well as theory, proving that I'm not just talking a good game and defending my porn, but also willing to make it collapse, be sloppy and absurd and misguided and misunderstood.

I love that. It's so... to say "writerly" seems totally condescending or satirical or something, but it just really strikes a chord with me, that willingness. It's cool.

Date: 2004-12-01 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Thank you:) And I don't feel like writerly is condescending, but I know what you mean, it sums up the feeling but feels strange somehow:) I'm hoping the actuality lives up to the intent, but that's so always the case, isn't it?

Date: 2004-12-01 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenlev.livejournal.com
mmmm.....bender/rygel fic. oh, yeah! seriously, that would be very cool. *veg*

i like what you and [livejournal.com profile] troyswann said. i'm sending you good writing thoughts, because frankly i'm in awe of the ability you have to have *everything* in the story including the sex be part of the character's and the tale... rather than something (dare i say) slotted in. i love that you make it a whole story about whole people that way.

hopefully this makes some sort of sense within the context of what you meant?*g*

Date: 2004-12-01 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Ah, thank you hon. That's one of the nicest things I think anyone's ever said about my fic:) And yeah, it does make sense.

Date: 2004-12-01 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenlev.livejournal.com
thank you! and really, you're quite deserving.

i'm consistently amazed by the the intelligence and quality of all the writing hereabouts in LJ-land. and glad it makes sense...sometimes putting things into words is harder because i can't shrug and gesticulate and attempt to wiggle my eyebrows. heh heh heh.

Date: 2004-12-01 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
I think you do very well with the words;)

Date: 2004-12-01 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenlev.livejournal.com
thank you. although it is fun to wiggle eyebrows. *g*

Date: 2004-12-01 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubberneck.livejournal.com
Like, how do you make sex go wrong, sort of bad, disconcerting wrong, because if you both finish, how bad, really can it be.

*feldman clips on lapel button that reads: "Ask me about my orgasm-induced migraine!"*

Party X, I'm guessing, because Party Y was too cranky in the next ep to have thoroughly gotten his socks rocked, but not cranky enough to be unwilling to try for round two.

Heh, I still love this description. Did you get my IMs? *bats eyelashes* I also thought about this aspect after I'd logged off: orgasms are like snowflakes, ever-different. If one postulates a bell curve, then there are just as many fizzles as earthshakers, just as many memorable outliers in the 'unsatisfying and not even really a relief' direction.

But I agree it's a rich topic for interaction. Good sex is easy to deal with. Surviving bad sex is a real test of the participants. It's so easy to write off the person along with the experience, so very hard to discuss the situation and work it out.

As for the last suggestion I had on IM, I do think it would make a good challenge, if a disturbing one *hums The Von Bondies "Lack of Communication"*

And speaking of porn, fellow the_sporkys members who are participating in choosing fic to go forward, we definitely need a sound guidance system. I think we're 90% there, but let's make it official, shall we?

Sounds good to me. Can you post something to the Sporkys for just us judges, then we can look over the last details and then post something public?

Date: 2004-12-01 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Dude, snort - The Neighbors, Nosebleeds and Nippletwist Challenge: Sex gone wrong.

Hee. Consider this challenge met:)

The rest of the suggestions are great - unsurprisingly (and yeah, I'll post something just for the judges:)

I think, actually, the unintentional physical pain is the way to go. So far, she's wobbling between needing to get laid and being weirded out by him, so there has to be something pretty substantial that throws him off. And I want to try to keep it Season 1:) But, we'll see:)

If one postulates a bell curve, then there are just as many fizzles as earthshakers, just as many memorable outliers in the 'unsatisfying and not even really a relief' direction.


Ooh, that's a very good point, that I can work with:)

Surviving bad sex is a real test of the participants. It's so easy to write off the person along with the experience, so very hard to discuss the situation and work it out.</i. This, yeah. But if I set it early, there's also the sense that it's not so much bad sex as weird sex, awkward, not so great, strange sex. Do you care if I send you what I have, or post it locked?

Date: 2004-12-01 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubberneck.livejournal.com
This, yeah. But if I set it early, there's also the sense that it's not so much bad sex as weird sex, awkward, not so great, strange sex.

Sex as an exercise xenobiology 8 )

Do you care if I send you what I have, or post it locked?

Ooo! Yes, please!

Date: 2004-12-01 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Hee - posted. I'm trying the filters thing to see if it works.

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