Rocky Road
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crankygrrl has written some fabulous post LGM fic. It is a WIP and it's graceful and aggressive and stops like a teenager girl in a short skirt, all about the tease. She knows I love her, otherwise she wouldn't have left me hanging like that!
vaznetti is talking about The Aeneid, about favoring Aeneas and this story over the Greek epics. It's very much worth reading, gives a new insight on Aeneas' journey, on his role.
jenlev wanted more geekery about the archetypes/gods/Farscape characters and to make it harder, she wanted Poseidon. Hee.
Poseidon is part of the original pantheon. He's the brother of Jove/Zeus/Jupiter, but he really doesn't have as much character, in my mind, as the others. We simply don't hear as much about him as we do about Zeus. He's the god of the sea and of earthquakes, which, especially to the Greeks would have been essential. The sea ruled their lives, their livelihoods, their defenses and their means of escape, of travel and trade. We mostly know of Poseidon's wrath via The Odyssey, his vendetta against Odysseus for his hubris and for the harm to his son, the Cyclops.
As an archetype, Poseidon is the vengeful god, the man in a position of power, opposing his fellow gods in his pursuit of Odysseus. Not that they all haven't had humans that they've acted against, that they've pursued, but Poseidon is unrelenting in his pursuit, and I think we'll have to say that Crais is the closest to this archetype. He's the Captain of a Command Carrier, a man who's word is law, who terrifies his subordinates, and falls into rage, losing the edge of calm and reason necessary to be a succesful leader.
We see later, of course, that Crais has been sort of an obsessive nutjob for a while, and it was Crichton taking away the one thing that mattered to him, the one tie to his past and to his home, that set him off completely. So, that's an obvious parallel (again, keep in mind that all of this ties into the Farscape as Odyssey theory, because it's not Poseidon, at the end, who proves the real threat to Odysseus).
Archetypally, Poseidon represents the unpredictable - the sea, earthquakes, things with the potential for devastation. It's the potential that's important. He's volatile, but not as actively vengeful or manipulative as Zeus can be. He doesn't live in Olympus with the other gods (Crais, flying deep into the Uncharted Territories, away from the support of High Command), but in the sea, and he can influence the winds. He's a far more elemental figure than any of the other gods aside from Zeus, and the two of them are halves of a whole. There is a reason that Hades is not in the Pantheon, he isn't a foil for Zeus. He is simply in charge of the dead. Zeus and Poseidon, though, rule the weather, which rules the world, above and below, thunderbolts and tridents, instruments of destruction and power. He makes sharp, rash judgments, and is swayed too easily by his losses.
Crais eventually abandons the power associated with being a PK Captain for a more personal sort of power, and for a different sort of revenge. Trading his life as a PK for his connection with Talyn, but he never loses his air of manipulation, of a sort of unchecked scheming and power, as well as a deep need to come full circle in his life. He longs for the sort of power and control that is no longer available to him, and falls in second to Scorpius in being an actual threat, but he is a very real threat at the beginning, before the power is taken out of his hands, and his contentious relationship with the daughter of Zeus, with Athena, also fits in well with the dynamic between Aeryn and Crais.
I like the what do you want more of in fic meme:
I want, well, I want more of Aeryn teaching things to John - weapons maintenance, how to fly the Prowler.
I want more of John's curiosity getting him into trouble, that mix of interest and fear for the world around him.
I want more flight, and quiet.
I want more tangible moments between characters, all characters.
I want more knowledge of communication - media, entertainment, etc,
I want more contrast between worlds and space, and what these contrasts mean to the characters.
I want more sex for the sake of sex.
I want to know what happened after MTB, after BTBW.
I want more UST, dammit. In all my fandoms. I want to long for these characters.
I want more friendship interaction, more moments of those things people do simply because they care about each other.
Ms.
crankygrrl has written some fabulous post LGM fic. It is a WIP and it's graceful and aggressive and stops like a teenager girl in a short skirt, all about the tease. She knows I love her, otherwise she wouldn't have left me hanging like that!vaznetti is talking about The Aeneid, about favoring Aeneas and this story over the Greek epics. It's very much worth reading, gives a new insight on Aeneas' journey, on his role.jenlev wanted more geekery about the archetypes/gods/Farscape characters and to make it harder, she wanted Poseidon. Hee. Poseidon is part of the original pantheon. He's the brother of Jove/Zeus/Jupiter, but he really doesn't have as much character, in my mind, as the others. We simply don't hear as much about him as we do about Zeus. He's the god of the sea and of earthquakes, which, especially to the Greeks would have been essential. The sea ruled their lives, their livelihoods, their defenses and their means of escape, of travel and trade. We mostly know of Poseidon's wrath via The Odyssey, his vendetta against Odysseus for his hubris and for the harm to his son, the Cyclops.
As an archetype, Poseidon is the vengeful god, the man in a position of power, opposing his fellow gods in his pursuit of Odysseus. Not that they all haven't had humans that they've acted against, that they've pursued, but Poseidon is unrelenting in his pursuit, and I think we'll have to say that Crais is the closest to this archetype. He's the Captain of a Command Carrier, a man who's word is law, who terrifies his subordinates, and falls into rage, losing the edge of calm and reason necessary to be a succesful leader.
We see later, of course, that Crais has been sort of an obsessive nutjob for a while, and it was Crichton taking away the one thing that mattered to him, the one tie to his past and to his home, that set him off completely. So, that's an obvious parallel (again, keep in mind that all of this ties into the Farscape as Odyssey theory, because it's not Poseidon, at the end, who proves the real threat to Odysseus).
Archetypally, Poseidon represents the unpredictable - the sea, earthquakes, things with the potential for devastation. It's the potential that's important. He's volatile, but not as actively vengeful or manipulative as Zeus can be. He doesn't live in Olympus with the other gods (Crais, flying deep into the Uncharted Territories, away from the support of High Command), but in the sea, and he can influence the winds. He's a far more elemental figure than any of the other gods aside from Zeus, and the two of them are halves of a whole. There is a reason that Hades is not in the Pantheon, he isn't a foil for Zeus. He is simply in charge of the dead. Zeus and Poseidon, though, rule the weather, which rules the world, above and below, thunderbolts and tridents, instruments of destruction and power. He makes sharp, rash judgments, and is swayed too easily by his losses.
Crais eventually abandons the power associated with being a PK Captain for a more personal sort of power, and for a different sort of revenge. Trading his life as a PK for his connection with Talyn, but he never loses his air of manipulation, of a sort of unchecked scheming and power, as well as a deep need to come full circle in his life. He longs for the sort of power and control that is no longer available to him, and falls in second to Scorpius in being an actual threat, but he is a very real threat at the beginning, before the power is taken out of his hands, and his contentious relationship with the daughter of Zeus, with Athena, also fits in well with the dynamic between Aeryn and Crais.
I like the what do you want more of in fic meme:
I want, well, I want more of Aeryn teaching things to John - weapons maintenance, how to fly the Prowler.
I want more of John's curiosity getting him into trouble, that mix of interest and fear for the world around him.
I want more flight, and quiet.
I want more tangible moments between characters, all characters.
I want more knowledge of communication - media, entertainment, etc,
I want more contrast between worlds and space, and what these contrasts mean to the characters.
I want more sex for the sake of sex.
I want to know what happened after MTB, after BTBW.
I want more UST, dammit. In all my fandoms. I want to long for these characters.
I want more friendship interaction, more moments of those things people do simply because they care about each other.
