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* Yesterday's workday shall not be mentioned, or hopefully, repeated. The cyclical nature of this industry means that mistakes tend to coalesce all at once, biting you repeatedly on the ass until you just want to offer up your throat and say, "End it."

I compensated with a nap, a bath, a glass of wine, and "Gilmore Girls." Which was charming, and made me miss it terribly, and still sort of hate the middle of this season. Then I went to rehearsal, and there was no screaming, but I find that blank cow look that some of my dancers get because they cannot remember the step we just frelling did to be more than a little frustrating. Still. There was no yelling.

* I have never seen the "Prometheus Unbound" from SG-1 S8, and would sort of like to for the story I'm writing for my Sweet Charity winner. Anyone able to point me to an ahem of any sort? Particularly an avi or zipped ahem. Or, at the very least, a transcript?




* I sort of blew off being annoyed with the whole "America's Top Model/Search for the Next Pussycat Doll" thing because of my huge amount of don't fucking care, but I find that maybe I do. Because what are we telling our young girls, what are we telling our boys? That the highest ambition you should have is to have a smokin' hot body and sell it on stage? This ain't female empowerment folks, this is the same old exploitation, the same thing that makes porn stars and strippers claim empowerment. It's sexploitation without the abuses, cleaner, sure, but no less dangerous. I listen to "Loveline" most nights driving home because I've always liked that they talk honestly about sex (although I wish they'd have a female counterpoint on there sometimes), but lately, they're featuring porn stars, and women known for their tits and not their talent, and it's starting to piss me off, to worry me. Controlling our reproduction was powerful, controlling our sexuality, enjoying in it, also powerful. Selling it? Not powerful. Objectification is never more than that. It's false power.

And that turns into a different sort of worry because all over my flist is talk and talk and talk of boys. Emo boys, band boys, space boys. And dude, I'm all in favor of the boys. But are we just reacting to what we're being given, or are we defaulting to that state where boys are the center and girls are the periphery? Women are the periphery. And we're keeping them there.

There's a Mother's Day challenge going on right now, and I'm so excited because we (fandom we) have a chance to celebrate women, and mothers (and don't tell me most of you, most of us, haven't freaked out on your show because someone was going to become a mother, worrying about what that meant, and sometimes it sucked beyond the telling of it, but rarely was it as bad as anyone feared. Because having a kid isn't losing identity, right? It's shifting and expanding that identity, and first, we have to appreciate that female identity in the first place).

And of course Mulitverse is coming up with the potential for hot kick-ass women in space.

So write some women folks, talk about them, demand them from your media. And come by and tell me some of the one's that you miss seeing on a regular basis. And tell me about the one's I'm missing out on.

* And finally, on a random note, [livejournal.com profile] minervacat mentioned a desire to write about the other DRD's that Crichton programmed to play music, and I offered the following:

"The Nutcracker Suite, because he misses Christmas, clearly. And some Rachmaninoff because you know that he's already blown stuff up and was dying for a soundtrack. And I bet he also taught them some Skynyrd, so you know somewhere running amok is the poor lonesome DRD playing Freebird and Sweet Home Alabama, while John sits on the floor, drunk on homemade moonshine, waving his lighter."

Except the more I think about it, I feel like I stole the Skyard thing (possibly from [livejournal.com profile] rubberneck which would not be a surprise to me:)

So, other potential musical options? A little Don Ho? I can see a ukelele theme'd DRD complete with tiny bubbles coming out of one of its implements.
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Date: 2007-04-25 07:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ainsley.livejournal.com
Did you receive the above comment?

Date: 2007-04-25 07:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ainsley.livejournal.com
Glad to be of use. :) (even if my usefulness can't be public knowledge. silly people wot are tattletales.)

Date: 2007-04-25 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Ohhh. I have not tried that! Thank you. (This desire just occurred to me as I was updating LJ, and actually have no idea where to get ANYTHING. I'm totally dependent on the kindness of my flist, and now, friendsfriends;)

Date: 2007-04-25 07:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ainsley.livejournal.com
I shall look forward to reading the resulting fic once I'm that far in canon (I fell in love in the second half of S10, so am slowly catching up--I'm at the end of S2 now).

Date: 2007-04-25 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Hee - I tried for years to watch SG-1, couldn't, and then fell in love with S9 and 10. I've tried to go back, but I still can't quite care, which is why I've never seen that ep:)

Date: 2007-04-25 07:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ainsley.livejournal.com
I fell INSANELY hard, to the extent that I spent two weeks thinking about almost nothing but the last three episodes. As a result, I'm thoroughly enjoying the first seasons, despite Vala being the reason I fell. Which, of course means Farscape's up next.

Date: 2007-04-25 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Just bear in mind that Farscape is a vastly different show. It's my best beloved show, so I'm prejudice, but the aims are very different from Stargate.

It is, however, entirely possible to adore them both:)

Date: 2007-04-25 08:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ainsley.livejournal.com
Ah, BUT. I get to stare at Claudia Black and Ben Browder. So not so vastly different.

Plus, I'm in need of new-to-me sci-fi. And it's there, and people I trust adore it.

Who knows? Could become my best beloved, too.

(Not that I'm an optimist or anything. Nope.)

Date: 2007-04-25 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Ah, BUT. I get to stare at Claudia Black and Ben Browder.

Hee. The benefits of that cannot be denied:) They are quite extraordinarly beautiful in FS:) It's so my roll around on it and mark it like my cats with the coffee table show that I'm irrational about it.

It's a beautiful show though - funny and messy and utterly insane, and smart and ambitious, and dirty and juvenile and fantastic. And I'm sure you'll hear, or have heard this, but what Browder does on Farscape makes you a little appalled by what the PTB at Stargate don't allow him to do. That being said, Aeryn is probably my favorite character in anything, and CB is just... amazing doesn't quite convey it.

Date: 2007-04-25 09:17 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ainsley.livejournal.com
Well, now, the first few episodes will just have to be my reward for writing my paper, then.

Perhaps that'll motivate me to start. The research. When the paper's due in a week.

Date: 2007-04-25 07:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
The mother's day challenge looks good. I signed up. Because I have so much time...:)

Date: 2007-04-25 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
I know. I'm swamped, and yet I know I'm gonna sign up.

Date: 2007-04-25 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hossgal.livejournal.com
Controlling our reproduction was powerful, controlling our sexuality, enjoying in it, also powerful. Selling it? Not powerful. Objectification is never more than that. It's false power.

And that turns into a different sort of worry because all over my flist is talk and talk and talk of boys.


Two things of note here...

(And I'm just thinking out load, and if I'm harshing your rant, say, and I'll wander off.)

Setting aside issues of "we women are the historical weaker underclass, so it's less important what we as women do now than what has been done to us before" because while, okay, I can *see* that, I very much don't *agree* with that, and instead looking at what each individual person is doing to the individual people (and characters) around them -

- is the objectivication and oogling and "omgprettyboys!" re: SPN in general and Dean Winchester in specific - is that substantially different than guys watching Pussycat Dolls?

My feeling is that it is not, and my justification is that I am, still, to some extent, watching SPN for plot.

Secondly - and again back to individual characters - I have yet to see a gal character with family issues the size and shape of Dean Winchesters. I would really like to think that if I did see a show, with a lead gal, that was all about the 'I can't do this alone', that I would latch on to it. (I will go on at length, if you like, as to why Buffy never was and never will be that show for me.) I note that much of fandom doesn't seem to *want* women with family devotions. I think that while people go awwwwww over, say, Hector of The Iliad who takes off his armor to comfort the child, that if it was an Amazon character who set down her war-gear, even for a moment, that fangirls would savage her the way we did Scully and Cordelia and Aeryn for having family-protective feelings.

And now that I think on them, both of these thoughts are more related to fangirls/Fandom than they are to TPTB. *shrugs* Maybe I think we've got a better shot at influencing fandom than TPTB. Maybe I'm not making sense period.

Again, just throwing stuff out there, and maybe this is entirely counter to the point you're trying to make, and heaven knows I'm not trying to *justify* people putting stuff like PCD on my tv screen. (and cancelling firefly instead, bastards) Just, you know, *thoughts*.

- hg

Date: 2007-04-25 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
- is the objectivication and oogling and "omgprettyboys!" re: SPN in general and Dean Winchester in specific - is that substantially different than guys watching Pussycat Dolls?

The big difference I see here, in part, is that I'm way more worried about the GIRLS watching PCD then the boys. Boys will ogle, with the sound off, and they'll ogle most anything and it's sort of joyous and universal for them. And if we're doing that with SPN, I've got no problems with that:) But there's also the major difference of constructed story, and show about selling your body for fame and prophet.

I think that while people go awwwwww over, say, Hector of The Iliad who takes off his armor to comfort the child, that if it was an Amazon character who set down her war-gear, even for a moment, that fangirls would savage her the way we did Scully and Cordelia and Aeryn for having family-protective feelings.

My guess is that this is true as well. We want the vulnerability aspect of men as warriors and fathers, and we want our women without those hints of "normal" vulnerability. We are so much more demanding of the women in our media, perhaps it's tied too closely to our self-perception, to the myriad people expecting maternal feelings from us, expecting softness, when we don't want to be defined that way. I'm not sure.

And honestly, right now, I'm more concerned with our, with fandoms, reaction to media more than the producers of that media, because I can turn off media I don't relate to, but I don't want to turn off fandom.

Date: 2007-04-26 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hossgal.livejournal.com
Re: girls watching PCDs - okay, I can see this [not wanting girls to think this is appropriate behavior/a viable way of getting what they want]. My take would be - this is the choice those women made re: 'owning' their sexuality. And while I have very not-positive things to say about that choice, I also have very not positive things to say about 'controlling reproduction' or other things that you maybe look more positively on. So I'll just leave it at that - that my issues with the PCDs are not your issues (and I'm trying to remember that, and not project). Which, again, I'm not saying I *approve* of more PCD and less SPN/Drive/Firefly.

We are so much more demanding of the women in our media, perhaps it's tied too closely to our self-perception, to the myriad people expecting maternal feelings from us, expecting softness, when we don't want to be defined that way.

Hmmm. My take is less of women in fandom 'not wanting to be defined that way' (ie - that's not all we are) as they/we are 'rejecting those characteristics completely' (ie - we're not like that at all). Which is...unfortunate. And I think it *does* stem from a rejection of who we are as women, as biological child-bearers, which is a characteristic I don't think can be left behind, no matter what laws we change.

...And I'm finding myself sliding towards ranting/lecturing, so I will leave it be.

Anyway. Thank you for thinky thoughts.

- hg

Date: 2007-04-26 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
girls watching PCDs - okay, I can see this [not wanting girls to think this is appropriate behavior/a viable way of getting what they want]. My take would be - this is the choice those women made re: 'owning' their sexuality.

My worry here is less about the women who've made that choice than what I feel like is an overwhelming trend towards encouraging girls that these are good choices, that these are the best choices.

Date: 2007-04-25 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] life-on-queen.livejournal.com
Women are the periphery. And we're keeping them there.


And you ain't even read my Bitch-inspired essay, "Slashing Daddy: How Slash Fic Makes Patriarchy Palatable" or its sister essay "Be Clever, Not Beautiful: Why Hating the Pretty Girls Helps Keep the Women Down."

Basically, so much of fandom these days is anti-feminist garbage with a sexed-up POMO spin, it makes me want to puke. And the fact that the majority of smart talented women I encounter online are more interested in writing about men in fiction than women or, lords forbid, actually creating interesting new female characters is deeply troubling.

Date: 2007-04-26 12:45 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] elz.livejournal.com
And that turns into a different sort of worry because all over my flist is talk and talk and talk of boys. Emo boys, band boys, space boys. And dude, I'm all in favor of the boys. But are we just reacting to what we're being given, or are we defaulting to that state where boys are the center and girls are the periphery?

That's something I always waffle about, because it does concern me, but at the same time, I can't say that fandom didn't embrace Aeryn or Scully or Buffy and wouldn't fall like a ton of bricks for new heroines of that caliber. It's just that fans seem less willing to take chances for female characters, less inclined to do the work to make a character interesting or make a pairing happen the way you see in m/m slash. But then again, you can find m/f romance anywhere, while slash is still mainly a fandom phenomenon, so I'd like to think there's more at work there than simple misogyny.

I don't know - I really do go back and forth between thinking that the cynics are too cynical and the people who think there's no gender bias in fandom are blind. I'm pretty sure female-oriented ficathons are pure gold, though.

Date: 2007-04-26 05:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
It's just that fans seem less willing to take chances for female characters, less inclined to do the work to make a character interesting or make a pairing happen the way you see in m/m slash. But then again, you can find m/f romance anywhere, while slash is still mainly a fandom phenomenon, so I'd like to think there's more at work there than simple misogyny.

Part A of this is one of the issues I have (when women who are in the midst of a slash pairing or situation get villified). And part B, I waffle between thinking slash is a healthy way for female sexuality and desire to express itself and being a little disturbed by it's prevelance in fandom (not for any reasons of m/m, but because of the dismissal of the feminine and the feminization of the masculine). I know there's a whole slew of in between as well.

I also think slash is something vastly different than same sex love and sex. It's as much about subversion as it is homosexuality. (That's not bad, but I think it expresses most of fandoms lack of acceptance of the mainstream than a true embrace of gay sex and love. It's like getting all the hot of a same sex pairings with few of the actual aspects of writing a gay man or woman. Not universally, and not that there's anything wrong with that. I sort of (okay, I really) love the ability to pair people up based on chemistry and pretty and not just canon and gender, but still, it makes me think.

Date: 2007-04-26 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denyeverything1.livejournal.com
we (fandom we) have a chance to celebrate women, and mothers

I hope I can be forgiven for feeling more than a bit queasy at the idea of fandom celebrating mothers. Women, yes -- I think fandom has made some strides there, though it obviously has a long way to go.

But mothers? I think I'm way to scarred by the XF S8 wars over that topic to ever feel anything but nervous at fandom getting a hold of that topic. I wish I felt differently, but this was absolutely my first reaction to seeing that challenge announced. :o(

Date: 2007-04-26 05:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Hmm, I think that it's a chance to define the myriad types of mothers out there, and celebrate them - those who are enthusiastic, and yearning, and strict and ridiculous, and loving. I think it's a nice chance to look at an aspect of women that we either demonize or canonize when often, it's just one of them many difficult aspects of being a woman in any society.

And, when you've got a list that includes both Vala and Aeryn (among a slew of others, but those are - unsurprisingly - ones that grab me), you've got a whole new definition of motherhood. I also keep thinking of Abby Bartlet, among others:)

Date: 2007-04-26 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] denynothing1.livejournal.com
I think it's a nice chance to look at an aspect of women that we either demonize or canonize when often, it's just one of them many difficult aspects of being a woman in any society.

I agree that it's a great idea in theory, and certainly a meaty, interesting challenge for a writer. I just have very little faith in fandom to either a) want to address the topic in a complex way or b) have the the capacity to do same.

I think you are vey much in the minority of writers who would be willing or able to do justice to the topic without letting the sheer bile I've seen poured on it in the past getting in the way.

I hope I'm wrong.

Date: 2007-04-26 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
I hope so too!! I hope this challenge produces some interesting, complex stuff.

Date: 2007-04-26 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apathocles.livejournal.com
And tell me about the one's I'm missing out on.

If you're willing to read superhero comics... Dan Slott's run on She-Hulk, particularly the earlier stuff. No, don't laugh *g* -- it's one of the most thoughtful, well-written comics going around, and I actually think of you quite a bit while I'm reading it. It's real mish-mash of genres: superhero story meets Bridget Jones's Diary meets legal drama.

Okay, the basic premise is that Jen Walters, AKA She-Hulk, gets a job in a legal firm that specialises in superhuman law. Unlike her cousin Bruce, she can control her changes between one form and the other, and retains all of her intellect when Hulked-up. This in turn leads to a tendency to prefer being She-Hulk, which, of course, leads to issues.

It is a seriously fun read (and I say this as someone who usually avoids romantic comedies like the plague), and definitely one of the best portrayals of a female lead character I've seen by a male writer. The quality has dropped a little, lately, mostly due to the company-wide crossover Civil War storyline being shoehorned into the whole thing, but I think it's starting to pick up again, so, fingers crossed.

Also, for the most part, the characters have little or no history beyond this particular title, so you don't have to worry about knowing a whole lot of continuity in order to enjoy the story. And the supporting characters kick arse. *♥s Awesome Andy so very, very much*

The only thing I'd really warn you about is the cheesecakey covers; I personally have no problem with them, but I know a lot of people have serious issues with them. The art inside bears no resemblance, particularly in the earlier stuff, when Juan Bobillo was doing the (awesome) pencils. Some of the more recent artists have a bit more cheesecakey style, but nothing worse than you'd find in the average superhero comic.

I've been meaning to pimp this at you for ages, and you've finally given me the perfect excuse. I'm almost certain the first trade is Single Green Female; I'd have to do check what comes after that, as the series was cancelled after the second story arc and then brought back a few months later, which can make the numbering confusing, and lead to people accidentally reading storylines from the reboot when they think they're reading the original. *g*

So, yes. You asked, and I recced. :p

Go. Read. *prods in arm*

Date: 2007-04-26 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apathocles.livejournal.com
And, no, that's not Jen in my icon. *g* That's Fire, who comes from the DC side of the comics fence, and is also awesome.

Date: 2007-04-26 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thassalia.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing this!! It sounds intriguing.

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